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May 23, 2017

Susan Orlean is a writer, and an incredible one at that. Abe and I were both big fans of her work before we met (via Twitter) and now we are friends. She also co-hosts her own podcast, Crybabies (with Sarah Thyre) so it was a no-brainer to have her on the show.

We talk about how hypnosis helped her get over her fear...